Marilyn Vine will be updating this Fluoride 2 page from time to time when information comes to hand. You will hear me sing from the rooftops when this insidious poison is removed from Australian public water supplies! The singing will be even louder when it is totally removed from every country’s water supply!
Bookmark this page to see new information as it comes to hand.
Federal Minister for Health Tanya Plibersek 12 December 2012
The following document is a concerned citizen writing to the Hon Minister of Health, Tanya Plibersek with regards to her comments on the ABC. It is a well constructed and well thought out response to the Minister’s comments and it will be very interesting to see if she goes on air or publication again making the same comments. Mr Zalec has given her the benefit of the doubt in this letter that she relied solely on information provided to her by other health officials, but now she has been appraised of the true situation, she cannot say she was uninformed! Please take time to read as you too may learn. Plibersek December 2012
Were you aware that this food exposes you to 180 times more fluoride than ingesting water?
On 4 February 2012 Dr Mercola advised in a video link up with Jeff Green that unless we are eating organic foods that we are being exposed to much higher levels of fluoride than ingested by drinking fluoridated water?
Please watch the youtube of the interview and then click on the link below for further information.
F.. and the Brain F and the Brain Nature has found it best to keep F away from the Newborn "These findings show that plasma fluoride is poorly transferred to breast milk and infants thus receive almost no F during breast feeding... The existence of a physiological plasma-milk barrier against F suggests that the newborn is actively protected from this halogen." Ekstrand J, et al. (1981). No evidence of transfer of F from plasma to breast milk. British Medical Journal 283: 761-2.
A cover story published in October 2010 in the American Dental Association Journal confirms an early study done by Levy which found that ”Infant formulas reconstituted with higher F water can provide 100-200 times more F than breast milk or cow’s milk.” Please click on the link and read the information provided. Fluoridated Water Dangerous to Infants
Fluoride 2 page brings you an article on the ownership of rainwater and it just amazed me! The information contained in this news item has already been implemented in parts of the US. I believe that people should be on the alert to watch for signs that other States in the US don’t follow suit. I believe that sometimes they trial something in one area to see how they get away with it and if they are successful then they start implementing elsewhere. Unfortunately, for Australians we tend to follow what the Americans are doing so we too need to be alert. Click on the link Rainwater – who owns it
Alcoa’s Trial to be Conducted in Angelsea Victoria now cancelled!
Enough public interest was generated for people of Angelsea to attend a meeting with regard to Alcoa’s plan to trial a new substance and for the people to do their own research and find out the consequences. Read what happened! Alcoas Polluting Trial at Angelsea – Victoria Australia
The Great Fluoridation Scam
Every now and then Marilyn Vine receives more F information. This document is a few years old but it tells quite succinctly the history and I thought it was so well written that I would include it here in this website. The Great Scam
This is additional information to the web page called Fluoride Information. This page will basically be made up of links that you can access for additional information as it comes to hand.
Marilyn Vine is the Officer of Eurobodalla Issues Incorporated based in Batemans Bay NSW Australia.
I, like many other people, feel very strongly that we should not be mandatorily fluoridated. HOWEVER, having said that I am not advocating that anyone NOT USE fluoride. All I am asking for is to be given the choice! If you wish to go down the fluoridation path then there are many options out there in the market place for you, one being fluoridated toothpaste. In fact using fluoridated toothpaste is more beneficial than ingesting fluoridated water simply because topical application supposedly works better.
Dr Mercola has released an article dated 20 July 2010 with regard to the problems that people in Indian villages are facing due to the high content of NATURAL fluoridation in their water supply. I understand that China also has a similar problem with the high level of natural fluoridation.
This begs the question:
If naturally occurring fluoridation causes such enormous problems then what is fluoride that is an industrial, toxic chemical waste product and an S6 poison doing to us when added to the public water supply?????
We learn in that in a town in India called Gaudiyan with a population of around 200 people that 135 have bone deformities! This is being caused by the excessive amount of naturally occurring fluoride in their water supplies. It is also reported that in villages in other places of India that the children are being affected. They are being found to have Lamellar Congenital cataract which is causing them to lose their vision due the lense of the eye becoming damaged.
Dr Mercola says in his article:
“This is an important topic for a number of reasons and one of the most important is that it helps dispel the popular public health myth that fluoride in the water supply is normal and actually prevents dental caries.
Nothing could be further from the truth as fluoride is a toxin and a poison even when it occurs naturally in your water supply.”
He goes on to say:
“Amazingly, the United States is only one of eight countries in the entire developed world that fluoridates more than 50 percent of its water supply. (The other seven are: Australia, Colombia, Ireland, Israel, Malaysia, New Zealand and Singapore.) Canada has a little over 40 percent of its population drinking fluoridated water and that percentage is falling as more and more communities are halting the practice.
Most likely, your dentist – along with countless government and public health officials -- has praised and promoted the use of fluoridation, both in toothpaste and drinking water, as one of your must-do regimens to promote strong and healthy teeth.
Unfortunately, they've all bought into the public deception of fluoridation's so-called "safety and effectiveness" and have unwittingly participated in and perpetuated perhaps one of the grandest public health frauds and toxic cover-ups in U.S. history.”
Dr Mercola and Dr Paul Connett have done an interview on fluoridation. Both Dr Mercola’s newsletter, the transcript of the interview and the YouTubes are well worth taking the time to read/listen to and learn. Unfortunately, many people around the world are quite ignorant about the side effects of ingesting this poisonous substance simply because this information is kept concealed from the general public, both by governments and the media!
Information from Fluoride Alert Network on how the Environmental Protection Agency is dragging their feet in relation to setting new standards for safe levels of fluoride in your drinking water. On reading the comments from Paul Connett you will begin to understand his frustration as the level appears to be Zero. Read Fan Bulletin 2018 EPA is Wasting Valuable Time
Robbing your body of magnesium
Fluoride 2 Page brings you information on how “fluoride seeks out minerals such as magnesium and binds with it, making magne¬sium unavailable to the body and unable to do its work. The magnesium-fluoride min¬eral produced is called sellaite; it is almost insoluble and ends up taking the place of magnesium in hard tissues like bone and cartilage, but its brittleness makes the bone susceptible to fracture. The reduction in available magnesium causes a decrease in enzymatic action in the body.”
The first of these articles is being posted 17 June 2010. New articles will be posted above this comment.
This is a report stating that "...the quality of the early intervention trials was generally poor.” North American Trials
More dental Fluorosis, increased cortisol bone defects and early onset puberty in young women in fluoridated areas. Kingston-Newburgh Update
The Brantford “trial” proves how bad science can be used for political ends. Brantford Trial
Dean’s 21 City Graph. Cherry Picking Data. Dean had access to date from 26 States why did he use date from only 21 citities from only four States in this critical paper. Did he select cities that best supported his hypothesis? Dean’s 21 City Graph
Journal of the American Dental Association versus Declassified Original Study from Chris Bryson 2006 Fluoride Deception Chapter 6, pages 87-90. JADA_Declassified Original Study
This is another website where you will find a great many more articles on fluoridating public water supplies. Chris Guptas Website
No Benefit – Definite Harm
This report was submitted to Health Canada 27 November 2009 by Kathleen M Thiessen, Ph.D, SENES Oak Ridge, Inc., Center for Risk Analysis, professional in the field of risk analysis, including exposure assessment, toxicity evaluation, and risk assessment. She has recently served on two subcommittees of the National Research Council’s Committee on Toxicology, including the NRC’s Committee on F in Drinking Water.
Two recent papers, whose authors include members of Health Canada's expert panel, clearly show no dental health benefit from ingested fluoridated water.
Evidence also suggests that F temporarily hides cavities by causing only surface remineralization which “covers up” underlying cavities. This may cause a delay in the diagnosis of cavities, leading to larger fillings, hence higher financial costs to the patient and increased fragility of the tooth. Increased fragility of the tooth generally leads to a shortened life span for a tooth. F..... temporarily hides cavities
Increased gum disease
Fluoride leads to increased gum disease report by Aberg G, Jerussi TP, McCullough JR. NSAID/fluoride periodontal compositions and method. US Patent: 5,807,541, granted September 15, 1998. F.... leads to gum disease
Leads to Tooth Fractures
Fluoride Leads to Increased Tooth Fractures. Below are statistics on tooth fractures.
Netherlands (not fluoridated) 2% tooth fracture
Portland, Oregon, USA (19% fluoridated) 4.4% tooth fracture
North Caroline, USA (85% fluoridated) 7% tooth fracture
You will notice that North Caroline in the USA where the highest concentration of fluoridation occurs has the highest rate of tooth fracture! Leads to tooth fractures
Mild Fluorosis “Dean advised that when the average child in a community has mild fluorosis, ". . . it begins to constitute a public health problem warranting increasing consideration" (Dean 1942, p.29).” NRC 2006 p 106 Dental Fluorosis 2
Fluoride and Gastrointestinal Tract
GI Complaints of Fluorosis Disease produce symptoms of Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) and Colic (babies):
F... and Kidneys
One of the strongest physiological effects of fluorides in drinking water (e.g. hydrofluorosilicic acid) is in the kidney, a point to consider in light of increased rates of kidney failure during recent decades. Kidneys
Skeletal Fluorosis - arthritic symptoms; slight calcification of ligaments..." Source: Department of Health and Human Services. (1991). Review of fluoride: benefits and risks. Report of the Ad Hoc Subcommittee on Fluoride. Washington, DC. Skeletal Fluorosis 2
F.. and Thyroid Function
National Research Council 2006 Report on F.. in Drinking Water F...is an “endocrine disruptor” “F exposure in humans is associated with elevated TSH concentrations, increased goiter prevalence, and altered T4 and T3 concentrations; similar effect. Thyroid Function 2
F.. and the Brain F and the Brain Nature has found it best to keep F away from the Newborn "These findings show that plasma fluoride is poorly transferred to breast milk and infants thus receive almost no F during breast feeding... The existence of a physiological plasma-milk barrier against F suggests that the newborn is actively protected from this halogen." Ekstrand J, et al. (1981). No evidence of transfer of F from plasma to breast milk. British Medical Journal 283: 761-2. The Brain
I hope that you have found the above links of assistance to you in your research. I can be contacted in the email below for people in Australia who like to know more and also can provide them with the name of a person in their State if they let me know where they live.